Ponderosa

[sarah]

Ok goodnight all! Going to watch BB and then sleep lol  

[zach]

Ugh and now I'm afraid we will see Hayden here

Getting 4th place > being a ftc goat

[zach]

Sarah is Jamal's wife.

[sarah]

There is definitely no harm in Hayden voting for Jamal (as he obviously should be) because he is going after a potential winner, and he probably assumes that he will be in the fire making challenge, and I would definitely put my money on Hayden in a Jamal-Hayden head to head puzzle showdown unfortunately.

And Locky you need to read my comment on one of your last posts! Hayden was always a target after your boot.

[Silas]

I hereby declare Sarah and Jamal's marriage.

[Silas]

Jamal's argument at TC is just so weak. Hayden has people on the Jury? Who exactly, besides Locky? He himself has Sarah (based on in-game player's perspective) so it equals it out. Then at the same time Hayden made a much better argument why Jamal should leave. I hope Jefra doesn't crack under the pressure and still votes Jamal. I am almost 100% sure Phoebe will keep Jamal. I hope it ties at the very least, otherwise I'd be sad!

[kate]

Silas ily

[andreaboehlke]

Hey everyone sorry for coming in late. I had no expectations to make it as far as I did. I didn't even know games like this existed until like two days prior to the start, so I feel solid about my finish. I know I made plenty of mistakes and could have done much better, but I have no shame about it. I did not know Jamal had an idol. I had been asking around for about two rounds prior and bringing up the threat of idols but got nothing concrete from anybody. If people like Hayden or Jefra knew then they didn't tell me. Also with the double vote I knew that round was gonna be a bit messy. I thought I might have had the numbers but played it in case of someone flipping, which happened. The plan was then to try and get in Locky on the revote since we knew he was being left out of the Zach plan. It didn't end up working but I was just trying to keep my numbers together at that point. 

[Silas]

Crossing all kind of fingers that Phoebe votes Jamal based on her TC answer!
It'd be such a sad storyline for Hayden, winning all ICs from F7 (when he'd have been targeted), to get himself into a good position, lose the most crucial FIC and then be voted out at F4. Doing a little prayer for him today!

Btw, Sarah, I am kinda curious. You seem to be kind of "big movez" type of player, which is totally fine by me. But if that's so, what exactly has Jamal done from your perspective? He had no hand in me-Locky going (from what it seems), he had no hand at the F11 vote, no hand in voting you out, no control over Andrea (she benefitted more from their relationship). The only thing he's done is play his idol at the last possible vote (when saving you with it would've been a much better move), but that was a given. So yeah, I am kinda curious. He has a good "story" to tell, but nothing much to back it up in reality imo.

[sarah]

Jun 24, 2020 18:22:25 GMT -5 Silas said:

Crossing all kind of fingers that Phoebe votes Jamal based on her TC answer!
It'd be such a sad storyline for Hayden, winning all ICs from F7 (when he'd have been targeted), to get himself into a good position, lose the most crucial FIC and then be voted out at F4. Doing a little prayer for him today!

Btw, Sarah, I am kinda curious. You seem to be kind of "big movez" type of player, which is totally fine by me. But if that's so, what exactly has Jamal done from your perspective? He had no hand in me-Locky going (from what it seems), he had no hand at the F11 vote, no hand in voting you out, no control over Andrea (she benefitted more from their relationship). The only thing he's done is play his idol at the last possible vote (when saving you with it would've been a much better move), but that was a given. So yeah, I am kinda curious. He has a good "story" to tell, but nothing much to back it up in reality imo.

I mean everyone likes a flashy move if it actually makes sense.  They usually will get you voted out though if you concoct them.  But Jamal had all the hand in both you and Locky going.  Him and I were both behind that and I was just ultimately the one who decided to change my vote from Locky to you last second after you came to me saying that you were changing your vote.  And idk how you don't think he had a hand in Zach's vote???  He ultimately wanted Aubry out that round I guess but I let him know that I was not cool with that.  ummm, next, he obviously didn't know about my boot but there would have still been no reason for him to idol me because him and I then would have been sitting ducks at Final 5 with Phoebe likely feeling betrayed.  Jamal made it clear to me that he wanted to keep the idol till 5, and if we both survived through 6 then we could have controlled the vote at 5 and forced a tie at least at 4.  But let's not focus on what could have been.  We shall see if he can put into words better some of the moves that he made throughout the game if he makes FTC, but I know you aren't likely to believe any of it anyways since things are so personal with you two.

[Silas]

Oh, I wouldn't say I wouldn't "believe" them, I am more than open to hear about it. But I have been there for almost half of his game. And it's not that personal, like I could careless about him outside of this game, I am focusing 100% on his game moves, to me some of which made no sense/put an unnecessary target on his back.

About the F11 vote, I was in the middle of that for what it's worth. I ultimately was deciding whether it was Jamal or Zach leaving that round (pre-revote) and Jamal was trying to "play" Aubry and Co, aka playing it up being a swing vote with me, which backfired. Then at double boot I think you had more of a say than him, in that you had Jefra and eventually Aubry-Andrea to vote me out. The Locky vote seems to have been your doing (even tho I believe that was bad for you, but w/e). But I guess I get what you mean @ him playing the idol at 6 and alienating Phoebe, that makes sense.

But for what it's worth, I guess he did a gj on keeping Phoebe on his side and not alienating her? But idk how much of that has to do with him and not with Phoebe not being 100% invested. And we shall see what she does here, even though I think she'll ultimately keep him in. I honestly think he only played a good game with you + Phoebe, and he got the idol to play it at F5. He was stubborn with Aubry when she was trying to be honest with him, Andrea benefitted more of their relationship, Locky clearly didn't trust him and neither did Hayden, he had a fall out with Zach for having a terrible convo, the list goes on.

Oh yeah, and a side note, so you're saying you voted for me cuz I changed from Aubry to Andrea? So in a sense if I didn't, you'd keep me and Aubry would've left that round? Just curious cuz idk if that makes perfect sense, but in a way maybe it does as in that you wanted to keep Andrea over Aubry at the time being? It kinda sounds to me you guys "wanted" to play with me, but I wanted Jamal out and that didn't fly with you. Well he alienated me for the same reason Andrea did with her double vote play (and pre-swap stuff too), so I'd have to say I had my reasons not to trust him at all.

[Silas]

Btw I find it hilarious Jefra doesn't give a flying hekk about answering TC questions, like for real? It'd be interesting to see what she's like at FTC, unless she doesn't answer those either? Lmfao.

[sarah]

Jun 24, 2020 19:02:05 GMT -5 Silas said:

Oh, I wouldn't say I wouldn't "believe" them, I am more than open to hear about it. But I have been there for almost half of his game. And it's not that personal, like I could careless about him outside of this game, I am focusing 100% on his game moves, to me some of which made no sense/put an unnecessary target on his back.

About the F11 vote, I was in the middle of that for what it's worth. I ultimately was deciding whether it was Jamal or Zach leaving that round (pre-revote) and Jamal was trying to "play" Aubry and Co, aka playing it up being a swing vote with me, which backfired. Then at double boot I think you had more of a say than him, in that you had Jefra and eventually Aubry-Andrea to vote me out. The Locky vote seems to have been your doing (even tho I believe that was bad for you, but w/e). But I guess I get what you mean @ him playing the idol at 6 and alienating Phoebe, that makes sense.

But for what it's worth, I guess he did a gj on keeping Phoebe on his side and not alienating her? But idk how much of that has to do with him and not with Phoebe not being 100% invested. And we shall see what she does here, even though I think she'll ultimately keep him in. I honestly think he only played a good game with you + Phoebe, and he got the idol to play it at F5. He was stubborn with Aubry when she was trying to be honest with him, Andrea benefitted more of their relationship, Locky clearly didn't trust him and neither did Hayden, he had a fall out with Zach for having a terrible convo, the list goes on.

Oh yeah, and a side note, so you're saying you voted for me cuz I changed from Aubry to Andrea? So in a sense if I didn't, you'd keep me and Aubry would've left that round? Just curious cuz idk if that makes perfect sense, but in a way maybe it does as in that you wanted to keep Andrea over Aubry at the time being? It kinda sounds to me you guys "wanted" to play with me, but I wanted Jamal out and that didn't fly with you. Well he alienated me for the same reason Andrea did with her double vote play (and pre-swap stuff too), so I'd have to say I had my reasons not to trust him at all.

I'm drunk so forgive me if this doesn't make sense.  I don't think you were in the middle of the Zach round as much as you thought you were, cause we wouldn't have alienated Locky on that vote if we didn't trust that you were voting with us.  Hayden casted Aubry aside just as much as Aubry did, and I seemed to be the only one to truly want to keep Aubry close and she came after me anyways LOL.  Ummmm, I do agree that Phoebe just kinda floated by Jamal's side the whole time and would have stayed loyal to me and him, but I was SUPER hesitant as to whether Phoebe would wake up and finally play the game.  Ultimately it was Jefra who woke up and surprised me.

And no, you were always going the double boot round, that I am sure of.  But you and Hayden changed your votes last minute and I am lucky (or unlucky, we may never know) that I voted the way I did.  But no, I am sorry but I don't think anyone in the game wanted to still play with you at that point in time   I would have if I knew you were legit by my side, but with how much you talked to everyone I could not gauge if you were genuine with me or not, so I just voted you to remove that variable, same as with Aubry eventually.  And yeah I mean you and Jamal were just on opposite sides of the game and neither of you had any reason to trust the other come merge really, and no one is to blame for that.  It is all good!

[locky]

So did you never truly trusted me after I told Zach about the plan sarah?

[locky]

Let's take a moment of silence and give tribute to Hayden the most dominant player of this game. Sorry to see you here mate! I wish you were at FTC and answering my questions there!