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Post by locky on Jun 27, 2020 9:04:57 GMT -5
Out of the 3 finalists, I gotta say that Phoebe was the one who captured who I really am. She was the only one who mentioned things about me that were actually true. As to not de-alias, it only means that Phoebe was social enough with me that I was able to tell her things about me that was actually the truth.
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Post by sarah on Jun 27, 2020 10:54:22 GMT -5
Jamal hasn't been doing well at ftc, but keep in mind that Silas hates him, and talked about knowing him outside of the game.  He probably made so valid points, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's holding a grudge, that has nothing to do with this game. Then again, I'm biased, since he's been fixated with me and bothering me a lot. To Sarah - Jamal would've thrown you under the bus, and made you look like a fool, just like he did to Jefra. You were one of the biggest threats in the game, but the way you came across in Ponderosa, makes me think that you would've bombed FTC hard and lost some votes. LOL ouch!!!! Well you seem to think Jamal is bombing this TC when I think he is doing WAYYYYY better than the other two, so I won't take you saying that I would bomb FTC to heart. My social connections (well not with you) in the end were better than Jamal's and that's the pitch I would have used to secure some crucial jury votes I think, but it's all hypothetical. But Jamal has admitted that the moves were crafted by both myself and him so I would have at least been able to defend myself, unlike Jefra. |
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Post by Silas on Jun 27, 2020 12:50:35 GMT -5
Jun 27, 2020 20:36:25 GMT 3 Jefra said:
I was confident that there would be another opportunity to vote you out, as even Jamal had confirmed with me multiple times that you would have to go eventually.
Enough with my stooopid fantasy games, but I always thought (even mentioned it somewhere here) that Jamal would never let Sarah make it to the end, and that his ideal F4 was him-Phoebe-Jefra-Andrea. Kinda glad Jefra confirmed that.
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Post by sarah on Jun 27, 2020 13:00:15 GMT -5
Jun 27, 2020 20:36:25 GMT 3 Jefra said: I was confident that there would be another opportunity to vote you out, as even Jamal had confirmed with me multiple times that you would have to go eventually. Enough with my stooopid fantasy games, but I always thought (even mentioned it somewhere here) that Jamal would never let Sarah make it to the end, and that his ideal F4 was him-Phoebe-Jefra-Andrea. Kinda glad Jefra confirmed that. I just saw Jefra's response and asked for clarification from Jamal about this exact thing! I am curious!!! I think Jefra's picture of Final 6 and 7 is very very distorted though. Jefra said that Jamal said that, but I also said to certain people that I wasn't going to let Jamal get to the end ... but in reality I probably would have. So just because Jefra believes something doesn't make it the truth. She thought she was Jamal's #1 and that she had control over all these votes when she clearly was in the wrong. |
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Post by sarah on Jun 27, 2020 13:06:23 GMT -5
"For example, Jamal was a lot more hands on, get in there and get your hands dirty scheming and wheeling and dealing which I was hyper aware of, specifically on the round that Aubry left, the Locky vote, and Andrea's boot. Sure, Jamal, do all the dirty work and then I'll decide if it's in my wheelhouse of what I would like to do. I never voted for someone that I was not fully 100% behind voting, and I hope that you guys realize that. Jamal stood as my worker bee that was readily available to do all of the scheming that I would normally be doing myself and then use that to my own gain."
This statement from Jefra in Hayden's questions shows again that Jamal played her game for her. She said she would decide each round that if the person Jamal wanted out was the best for her game, and every round except for my boot she agreed? And Jamal did all the dirty work and still got to the end? That literally shows that Jefra was used as a vote for Jamal the entirety of the game imo. She said somewhere else that she would always wait for people to come to her with plans, but claimed another place that she was the one who developed the Locky vote plan (among other things), so things just don't add up. She was no pro-active in this game, she was reactive. She was VERY good at being reactive, and sitting with Andrea and Phoebe in the Final 3 it would have been more than enough for me, but it simply is not even close with this Final 3.
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Post by Silas on Jun 27, 2020 13:30:34 GMT -5
I clearly don't know about post my boot dynamics, but I always thought it was you (between you-Jamal) behind all the moves until your boot, but you claim it was teamwork. Now, Jamal is obviously claiming all of this as his moves, while I believe Jefra is more honest. If I am not mistaken, I think Jamal has lied in his claims so far in FTC (and that will be adrresed in my speech), and being sneaky, aka waiting for Jefra to post first and then post his OS (when he's answering to Qs SO quick), is just sketchy to me. I know perception is reality, but I think Jefra is shooting her with the way she's presenting her story (to you, mostly), while Jamal is overselling his narrative. But brb! I need to post Qs!!
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Post by sarah on Jun 27, 2020 14:29:26 GMT -5
Well all I have to say is that I think the moves between Jamal and myself WERE teamwork, but in the end, he is sitting there and I am not, so he can take all the credit. That's how it works when only one of a duo gets to the end. If it was me there and not him, I would try to take all the credit. And if we were both there, then we'd have to fight over the credit.
Did he wait for someone else to post their OS first? Maybe, cause I have seen games where people do everything they can just to be the last one to post their OS so that they can edit theirs after the other two have already posted first. Is it dirty? Yes, but it is also allowed.
I don't think that Jamal is over selling it that much because him outlining his Final 7 strategy on shows that if he got to the Final 5 with myself and Jefra both, then he was just guaranteed to sit at the end even in a Final 2 scenario I think. That is beautiful endgame play imo cause I really had no clue about him and Jefra. His plan of course didn't go as he planned exactly because I was taken out at 6, but he still had the idol at 5, and then Jefra made the mistake of taking him to the end, just as he had planned that she would. So he was able to recover after the one round this whole merge that didn't go the way that he wanted, and he was able to keep key information from me throughout the game when I told him literally everything.
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Post by Silas on Jun 27, 2020 23:56:49 GMT -5
Jamal making Zach look through my Qs? He may as well get my vote JUST FOR THAT. Period.
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Post by zach on Jun 28, 2020 14:02:33 GMT -5
I locked in my vote.
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He probably made so valid points, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's holding a grudge, that has nothing to do with this game. Then again, I'm biased, since he's been fixated with me and bothering me a lot. 
