The Silas Screws Thread - Rise and Fall Edition

[Silas]

Kill me. We have a PERFECT SPLIT right in between and our alliance will crumble.

[Silas]

I AM THE SPLIT VOTE.

[Silas]

CHELS-JAIME-BRENDA-MARCUS VOTING JAMES.
PHOEBE-SPENCER-JAMAL-JAMES VOTING MARCUS.

UGH.

[Silas]

This decision has been done for many reasons. Mainly, to keep the animosity between a lot (almost everyone) of people on our tribe. And weaken the person I want gone next (that is Phoebe). More details later/after results.

Finally the crack between Jaime and Jamal has been opened. They are both power hungry and really bossy players, and we should put more fuel into that. I'm taking a risk only in not knowing Marcus all that well, BUT he should be willing to go against the people that voted for him.

[Silas]

Jamal, you goddamn dumb motherfucker. STFU AND GTFO.

[Silas]

Um, Chelsea, fyi, Jaime and Brenda both told me about the girly thing. You telling Phoebe to vote for James, when she last told me she was voting Marcus, shows your alliegence. And then lying to me? Dirty dead. Dead to me.

[Silas]

My original plan was that this would end up 5-4, with Phoebe voting for Marcus. If that had happened, it'd be easy to rally me-Jamal-Brenda-Spencer-Marcus to vote Phoebe out next. Even with Phoebe voting James (tnx to Chelsea), we could've done that. BUT JAMAL SCREWED IT UP. I told him there is a girl alliance originated by Phoebe, and he ran back to BRENDA and "made a joke about it". Jaime and Brenda both have told me about it, but with Jamal ruining shit, we may have lost Brenda in our quest to vote Phoebe. He may own it, but it was still so GODDAMN DUMB. Why the fuck would you do that? To prank her? Cuz you don't trust me and need confirmation? To alienate numbers that you eventually need? Facefuckingpalm.

[Silas]

Last night was such an unlucky chain of events, ngl. Once everything exploded, it turned into a snowball, and we will have to deal with the circumstances now. I am happy Marcus got to stay, but the whole process was daunting, though revealing. I will try to go through them one by one. In hindsight, Phoebe leaving would be the best for my game, but it was almost impossible to do that without Marcus coming online earlier. So many unlucky moments last night, I almost want to cry.

Early in the day me and Jaime were talking (as shown by the chat log), later on it was revealed that apparently she never wanted Marcus to leave, well neither did I. However, the most important thing is she told me about the girl's alliance that Phoebe initiated.

The day and everything was going well, the vote being Marcus for the whole day. Spencer was kinda funny at one point though, look at that:

SilasYesterday at 6:58 PM
Hey, Spencer, howdy?
Spencer BledsoeYesterday at 6:59 PM
Hey bud.
SilasYesterday at 7:04 PM
How was your sleep, bro?
Spencer BledsoeYesterday at 7:05 PM
It was good. I was up late.
SilasYesterday at 7:11 PM
Yeah, even though it's quarantine, lazy Sunday is a lazy Sunday
Spencer BledsoeYesterday at 8:14 PM
I think you’re good to go, bro. Just an FYI.

Rly, bro, you trying to condescend me? That made me cringe so bad, but seeing he has 0 intuition, I kinda understand, lol. But 0 tact, too? Plz entertain me more. HE is the one that reminds me of Shadow: Austin, he was kind of a gamebot creep, but a good pal overall. And Spencer is 39, or so he says, lol.

We skip all the way up to when Marcus comes around. He starts talking to people, and Brenda seems to like him, as expected. He's chatty and so is she. Jaime is apparently happy about that too, because she was secretly gunning for James. We made a group chat of me-Chels-Jaime-Brenda-Jamal. I also would not mind keeping Marcus, so we start discussing if we should change the vote from Marcus to James. Me, Jaime and Brenda are pro-Marcus, and Chels is very anti-Marcus. Jamal was playing DND or w/e it's called (one of the many things I'm unfamiliar with in US, lol).

So basically the arguments for Marcus/James were:

- Marcus might be a free agent if he stayed, because he'd have barely survived the first TC. That is still possible.
- In reality, given our alliance of 5, James was on the outs too, putting him in the same boat as Marcus as a free agent down the road and harder to read.
- James (and Spencer) wanted me gone right after the challenge. Makes sense, but you guys weren't here the time between the game started and the chall was posted. Bad read on your part.
- It was not Spencer because he sucks socially anyway and would bomb himself with the way he talks to people the most out of the 3. He is seen as a free agent just like Marcus/James, though, and that was considered.

Basically this was not going to work out, until Jamal showed up. Chelsea (and by extension Phoebe) was not changing until he came on. He was SO adamant about voting James, and he still didn't in the end, that Chelsea decided to change her vote to James in a heartbeat, out of spite towards Jamal. (She thinks him and James had smth going on, which I doubt to be the case. Well, gurl, not everyone is like you trying to be shady and playing both sides, doh.) I later asked James who he would like to keep moving forward with in the next round, and he said Brenda, Jaime and Phoebe, so obvs there wasn't much between him and Jamal, or none that was of importance.

However, Jaime totally drew a line and showed her allegiances, which was so dumb. And the argument she came with was totally pointless, too. Let me quote it:

chinajaimeToday at 1:12 AM
I don't feel comfortable voting for Marcus anymore. He messaged me and apparently is under the assumption that I agreed on saving him and I confirmed to him that I am saving him.
ChelseaToday at 1:13 AM
I am in the same boat with Jaime
jship33Today at 1:13 AM
lol who the fuck would tell him that
Brenda LoweToday at 1:13 AM
he told me he thinks he has the numbers too lol
chinajaimeToday at 1:13 AM
Because I wasn't going to deny that and possibly put someone from within this group in a bad spot.
Brenda LoweToday at 1:13 AM
that's fair, jaime no worries
chinajaimeToday at 1:13 AM
And Phoebe is also aware of a switch to James.
jship33Today at 1:13 AM
we just split votes? idc
here's the issue though
i already told james that i was voting for marcus, and im sure the others who are voting for marcus did the same
so we are all in the same situation as y'all are.
chinajaimeToday at 1:16 AM
I understand that.
jship33Today at 1:16 AM
so you are either asking us to be fucked over
or we are fucking you over.

Wtf @ Jaime, and then Jamal. They are SO stubborn that it makes my eyes hurt. They just proved my points about them from earlier confeshs. You guys are goddamn awful. I bet Jaime thinks she is a boss by changing the vote from Marcus to James, when in reality it was me, lol. Will get to that later. ONLY IF I DIDN'T MAKE A SLIM MISTAKE, JAMAL WOULDN'T SCREW ME UP, AND I'D BE SITTING MUCH PRETTIER RN. Fking hate myself for that.

So at one point, it seems that Jaime-Chels are changing votes and Spencer-James-Jamal are keeping their votes on Marcus. Me-Brenda keep contemplating on what to do, and she was being my agent with Marcus at first. She shows me that he originally wanted to target me/Phoebe, but that kinda makes sense, it's what he'd have heard from James/Spencer the day before (ty guys for pushing for me). I tell Brenda to tell him she'd change if he got the votes to stay, and she does so. Me and Marcus were talking (we've been doing so from before the chall), but we didn't talk game at all. The overall vibe was that he was reluctant to vote James/Spencer, but I go to him and say that:

SilasToday at 12:18 AM
Btw, who would you personally prefer to vote if I may ask?
marcusToday at 12:19 AM
Personally I’d probably prefer Phoebe just based on how little we’ve spoken so far
SilasToday at 12:23 AM
I think that isn't that bad of an idea
Because in general we have more guys than girls on the tribe
So it wouldn't surprise me if a guy left and the girls got tigether
And Phoebe hasn't been around all that much either
marcusToday at 12:24 AM
Let’s get her then if possible
SilasToday at 12:25 AM
But I don't think the girls would want to do that
but if it's possible, I'm down for it
cuz it keeps us both safe
marcusToday at 12:28 AM
Which would be so ideal
SilasToday at 12:33 AM
Tbh
And I will be 100% honest with you
I had good vibes out of our limited convos, and that you were honest about moving and what not
and I know James/Spencer have thrown my name out there
if people are unwilling to do Phoebe, I think that's not a horrible option either
marcusToday at 12:36 AM
I’m more than willing to join you and whoever you can get. I just want to stay and slay with this tribe
SilasToday at 12:53 AM
I feel like
it may go in James' direction
we need to get this idea into more people's head

I tend to think I am the first person who instigated the idea of James/Spencer to Marcus, and that is when things finalized in a way. Otherwise, he might have kept pushing for me/Phoebe.

NOW, I tried talking some sense into some of these people, that is why it took me forever to decide which way to go. I was trying to see if we can change the vote onto someone else, preferably Jaime/Phoebe (or Jamal, thats what I told Jaime/Brenda, lol), with all the guys voting as a block. We could've gotten James if he knew he was going, Marcus probably too, would have had to talk to Spencer about it. Jamal thought that was "too big of a move to do at this point", why is he is fking shortsighted? I agree it is, but we're losing numbers and giving power to other people, rather than looking out for our best interest.

In the end, I decided to vote James, because he'd want to work with Phoebe, whereas Marcus is willing to go forward with me/Jaime/Brenda/Chels. Me and Brenda told him Chels was hesitant to keep him, in hopes he wouldn't trust her as much. Hopefully it worked, but you never know.

Until this, I was quite happy with everything considered. I was keeping Jaime-Brenda happy, spoke to Jamal about voting James and how to proceed from here on out, saving me/Marcus strengthened my relationship with Marcus, and I don't feel I put my neck too much out there like Jaime and Jamal. On the other hand, it kept animosity between Jaime-Jamal and Chels-Jamal, so that would've kept the target off of me for the next round.

My ideal scenario for this round, until Jamal fucked me up, would be me-Jamal-Spencer-Marcus-Brenda to vote out Phoebe. I spoke to Brenda about voting Phoebe, and she was down for it. Jamal-Spencer would have a working relationship for being left out on the first vote. Me-Brenda-Marcus had a good bond based on the events last night. I am pretty sure it would've worked out just fine. I happened to tell Jamal that Phoebe initiated a girl's alliance, not telling him who said that, just so he knows to be aware of them. THEN HE FUCKING DECIDES TO GO TO BRENDA AND JOKE ABOUT A GIRLS ALLIANCE, NOT KNOWING SHE IS ONE OF THE 2 WHO TOLD ME BOUT IT. Brenda then comes pissed at me, and for a good reason I'd say, asking me what I've done. I bet she thought I was screwing her, which is totally not the case, but perception is reality here. I really don't get it why the fk would Jamal "joke" about it? Are you dumb? To get confirmation about it? 0 logic there. Then I go to Jamal, trying my best to keep my cool with him:

SilasToday at 3:08 AM
jamal
what did you do
jship33Today at 3:08 AM
i joked with brenda about the female alliance
and she got super serious about it
why?
SilasToday at 3:09 AM
it backfired on u
and me
and phoebe going next
like so hard
jship33Today at 3:09 AM
why?
SilasToday at 3:09 AM
cuz she told me earlier about it
and is now asking me
why did I tell u
and trust is lost a bit there
a crucial number that we need
jship33Today at 3:09 AM
oh my bad man.
brenda?
SilasToday at 3:10 AM
yep
we need me-you-brenda-spenc and Marcus/Chels
to vote PHoebe
now that you joked about smth that happened
it'll be tougher to get her
to do it
jship33Today at 3:10 AM
she wants me out?
SilasToday at 3:10 AM
no def not
she jus doenst trust me as much i guess
and may lean to the girls
more
jship33Today at 3:10 AM
oh i mean
i think it says more that she
SilasToday at 3:11 AM
i guess they'd gun for spencer
jship33Today at 3:11 AM
would not admit to it at first
SilasToday at 3:11 AM
it is almost certain now
jship33Today at 3:11 AM
which means that is her true alliance
SilasToday at 3:11 AM
yeah, but we could've worked arouned it
and make her do what is more beneficial for us
in voting phoebe
cuz they arent all that close
but they may become now
jship33Today at 3:11 AM
silas if she didn't admit it to me
i think she is in it full-blown.
regardless of what we do
but i apologie.
apologize.
SilasToday at 3:14 AM
no problem
we just have to do damage control
I know what you mean
but sometimes we dont need confirmation you know
cuz if our seperate bond is stronger than her-phoebe
jship33Today at 3:15 AM
yeah honestly
SilasToday at 3:15 AM
we can still get what we want
thats how i feel
jship33Today at 3:15 AM
i thought
that she trusted me more than she did
but i was wrong about that i think
so it is what it is. i own it.

Oh yay, you admit to screwing up, THAT IS NOT GOING TO HELP US, YOU FOOL. You may have just PUSHED BRENDA to lean towards that female thing more, OR MAKE HER RELUCTANT TO VOTE ONE OF THE GIRLS IF ASKED now. If he pranked someone, it should've been Chelsea, cuz she is the one that hates him. So fucking unfortunate there, and in general so fucking dumb of Jamal to do that. I try to build trust with you and you throw it out of the window, just to do what? Idgi, for real. From everything I know it made 0 sense and it screwed us royally.

Rn, I will be realistic, and say we're gonna lose this chall too. I don't think it'd be as easy to vote Phoebe anymore, cuz people are gunning for Spencer next, and it'd be more challenging to get Brenda on board now. Jaime wouldn't do it, she wants to know she has the numbers both ways for the next round, and Spencer is someone that is not in neither of her alliances. This will be a horrible round and I have to play it well, otherwise I might be leaving soon.

I think Brenda is in the best position right now on our tribe, nobody has her on their radar. I'd be there too, if not better, cuz I could have a sway on her, if Jamal didn't fuck me up this bad. Now I have to reassess and do my best to survive until a swap. If a guy left this round, I am sure Phoebe would push for the all-girl thing, and Jamal (or me, depending on how this round goes) would leave next. I can see Marcus doing whatever, cuz yea, why wouldn't he?

I'm honestly really annoyed rn, wish me luck.

[Silas]

Now, bear with me, please. I will try to foresee what will happen in the next few rounds.

So, initially I don't think I did bad by telling Jamal about the girls alliance, but that was my main mistake obviously. Can you guys plz help me out and talk whether I totally flopped on that? I know I've been badmouthing him ever since the beginning, but not because of distrust, rather than him being threatening. My initial thought process was that by telling him about it, he would be MORE CAUTIOUS about them, never imagined he'd bomb me so bad, and THAT WAS UNINTENTIONAL.

Now, for this round, Spencer will be on the hot seat. Jamal will be pushing for Phoebe obvs, but it won't be easy to do that. ONLY IF I VOTED MARCUS, SPENCER WOULD TRUST ME MORE, we'd have some leverage. He even asked me who I voted for. But that's that. It'd be best if Phoebe voted Marcus (that's why I was ready to write James), cuz then it'd be easier to sell her as a person who voted against Marcus, to make him vote her. I am pretty sure this is what the girls will be doing to him to make him vote Spencer. Hate it. I am positive it'd be really hard to keep Spencer, but who knows, I hope wonders may happen.

IF Spencer left, Jamal would go crazy the round after. Out of self-preservation, he would start INTENTIONALLY throwing me under the bus, really bad. Brenda-Jaime would lose trust in me, and Phoebe-Chels would be sitting pretty choosing between me-Jamal as the vote. Marcus would survive yet again. I think the swap may happen at F14, which is a looooong way to go, given how many challs I think we'll be losing.

So, Valhalla, please, let me know (in the PW, to be seen post-game), where did I screw up? By telling Jamal? By keeping Marcus? I feel really bad rn, need to think of a way to survive. I believe my reads are right for the most part, but where do I make mistakes? Is it managing my relationships? Or it is that I want to be in control of my fate? Is it overplaying? I know people are keeping their self-interest as a priority, and trying to play all angles, which is fine. I am having an inner meltdown rn. Should I just be like "screw it" and go in Sandra mode "as long as it ain't me"? (tbh I don't think she has ever truly been like that, but that's another topic). For my own game, if a guy had to leave this round, it'd be Jamal. Otherwise he'd bring me down with him. But Spencer is so bad that it won't happen. I want to cry.

[Silas]

IT'S TIME FOR BUSINESS, BABES.

chinajaimeToday at 4:01 PM
Morning :heart:
SilasToday at 4:07 PM
Morning girl
Whats up
It's 16:08 here :X
chinajaimeToday at 4:13 PM
Oh, lol
Doing all right, just having breakfast.
SilasToday at 4:13 PM
btw you are invis
chinajaimeToday at 4:13 PM
I went through the Dicevivor board again.. There's nothing there.
SilasToday at 4:13 PM
just letting you know
chinajaimeToday at 4:13 PM
Oh, thanks
I always forget to change back my status.
SilasToday at 4:14 PM
No prob, you were invis all day yesterday, not sure if it was intended
But I realized its not lol
chinajaimeToday at 4:14 PM
No, it wasnt xD
I went through the Dicevivor board again.. There's nothing there.
*thread
SilasToday at 4:55 PM
I am backk
Btw, do you have any idea who told PHoebe the vote was James?
chinajaimeToday at 4:59 PM
Well, Chelsea told me that he was going to ask Phoebe to vote for James and 2 seconds later she came back and said that Phoebe had agree.
I was like o.O
SilasToday at 4:59 PM
Yeah, that seems awks to me
chinajaimeToday at 4:59 PM
But I think Phoebe was just willing to do what the majority wanted. Chels brought the topic in the all female alliance
And so Brenda and I said that we were voting for James.
SilasToday at 5:00 PM
I see
cuz I asked Chels if it was her who told Phoebe
and she denied
that made me feel a little awk
she tried to say it was Jamal
when obv he wasnt voting James
for w/e reason
chinajaimeToday at 5:01 PM
But when you told me that Phoebe told you she was voting for Marcus, I was worried that maybe Phoebe wasn't like really into this whole female alliance.
I'm sorry I didn't follow up on that, I was away and when I came back everything was over.
SilasToday at 5:01 PM
yeah, no probs about that
chinajaimeToday at 5:02 PM
Chelsea is all over the place.
SilasToday at 5:02 PM
thats how I feel too
chinajaimeToday at 5:02 PM
Like, really. I'm worried that she may run her mouth in the future and screw things up.
SilasToday at 5:02 PM
she is trying to be everyone's #1 i feel like
Same
chinajaimeToday at 5:02 PM
I'd like to give her another chance and see if she calms down this round and doesn't do anything crazy and run around telling people everything.
Because I'd like to think she's just reckless and maybe she just need to be kept on check.
She can become annoying, and I feel that, as long as we can keep pushing this narrative that Chelsea can't be trusted (not like in the open, but subtly), she may have noone but us and that's a number.
I don't want to isolate her because we may need her in a swap situation.
SilasToday at 5:06 PM
I agree
Right now I think she's trying to buddy up with Phoebe
and if Phoebe left, she'd have nowhere to go
She's obvs not close with Jamal
she changed to James
only cuz of Jamal's recklessness
and she is obvs not close with Spencer
That's how I feel about Chels
chinajaimeToday at 5:07 PM
Yeah, I agree.
You think we'd consider voting Phoebe?
We'd still need to check what Brenda thinks of it.
SilasToday at 5:07 PM
Yeah
chinajaimeToday at 5:07 PM
I think Jamal would be up voting for Phoebe over Spencer.
SilasToday at 5:07 PM
I think if me-you are willing to do it, she would
I think it's gonna be between PHoebe/Spencer
in general
chinajaimeToday at 5:08 PM
And I feel we'd consider like giving something to Jamal, just to like make up to him for last night.
SilasToday at 5:08 PM
Agreed
chinajaimeToday at 5:09 PM
I'm worried that he might feel left out if we force a name this round too.
SilasToday at 5:09 PM
Yeah, totally
chinajaimeToday at 5:09 PM
And we'd definitely buddy up with Marcus.
SilasToday at 5:09 PM
And he is getting a vibe that there might be a girl's alliance
like he felt we were being strongarmed or smth
chinajaimeToday at 5:09 PM
Yeah
SilasToday at 5:10 PM
And we dont want him running around saying that
chinajaimeToday at 5:10 PM
I know.
SilasToday at 5:10 PM
It'd make the girls paranoid
that something happened
Yeah, I think we should talk with Marcus
He told me he's willing to go forward with
me-you-chels-brenda
so we can work on it.
chinajaimeToday at 5:10 PM
You think Chels may have mentioned something to Jamal about the girls alliance? I just don't know what to NOT expect from her anymore.
Though she tried to blame Jamal for telling Phoebe about the vote, right?
SilasToday at 5:11 PM
Yeah
She's all over the place
chinajaimeToday at 5:12 PM
me-you-chels-brenda
Yeah, I expected him to include Chelsea. You know that she told him that I have decided to "save" him way before we made a decision, so I'd assume he would feel like she was the one behind saving him.
SilasToday at 5:13 PM
Yeah, me and Brenda were trying to fill in Marcus
that she was the most hesitant
about keeping him
not sure if it worked
but we tried
we don't have to push it too hard anyway
chinajaimeToday at 5:13 PM
Yeah, I understand.
SilasToday at 5:14 PM
Tbh, I wouldn't mind if our core was the 4 of us
me-u-brenda-marcus
with Jamal-Chels
as side lines
cuz they seem to be rusty
chinajaimeToday at 5:14 PM
Yeah, I'd like that,
SilasToday at 5:15 PM
And I totally agree with your thought process on how to keep them happy
It is a sound plan
chinajaimeToday at 5:16 PM
:slight_smile:

[Silas]

Chelsea is lying to everyone, about everything. Do you wanna get voted out, gurl?

[Silas]

I fucking hate Spencer and Chelsea.

[Silas]

Let's all laugh together:

SilasToday at 12:32 AM
I've seen that before
lol
ChelseaToday at 12:33 AM
Me too
On grindr
Lmfao
SilasToday at 12:33 AM
I thought you are a girl?

Fuck off, you goddamn liar.

[Silas]

diva


Jun 2, 2020 0:07:37 GMT 3 diva said:
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Jun 2, 2020 0:00:27 GMT 3 Silas said:
I thought this was special only for our camp.
oh my I don't know what happen

[diva]

Did you call for a special smile???


A teacher wanted to teach her students about self-esteem,
so she asked anyone who thought they were stupid to stand up.
One kid stood up and the teacher was surprised.
She didn’t think anyone would stand up so she asked him,
“Why did you stand up?”

He answered,

SPOILER: Click to show

“I didn’t want to leave you standing up by yourself.”